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    Re: Just uploaded my new I-153 Template

    Hi!

    I dont want to insult somebody. I just say that there are more and more prooves that Pilawski mad acid colors are wrong. Also, he had not enough information about this or that aircraft, and speculate with colors and paintschemes.

    For example:

    Il-2 AM-38F "White 25" Unit, Location and Pilot unknown.
    Default PLESK Page

    This is Il-2 AM38F, from 16 VA, in propaganda flight over Berlin, April 1945. Several photos were taken, all shown in links below. To make more “moral effect”, photograph just simply “edited” one of photo “for newspaper”, adding white arrow and furious “Мститель” (Avenger).

    http://pics.livejournal.com/bersrk/pic/0000d1hd
    http://pics.livejournal.com/bersrk/pic/0000c914
    http://pics.livejournal.com/bersrk/pic/0000brzs
    http://pics.livejournal.com/bersrk/pic/0000asat

    Result: http://pics.livejournal.com/bersrk/pic/0000f64p

    Il-2’s, presented on that photos, are painted in standard NKAP-43 scheme. It just cannot be in “two colored” scheme (as Erik claim) because average life of Il-2 was short, even it was not shot up or damaged. Just because of wooden details were damaged by water/sunlight. Il-2 “two-colored”, built in late1942 to mid 1943 could not survive so long life. Easy.

    Elements of NKAP-43 are seen on right wing of this Il-2 from 16 VA:
    http://pics.livejournal.com/bersrk/pic/0000edk8

    Twotone scheme was AMT 4 and AMT 6, but not AII lacquers (used before 1941). There were no Braun color in VVS.

    Il-2 AM-38F 566 ShAP Summer 1944 Leningrad Font pilot unknown
    Twice HSU V.I. Mykhlik 566 shap.
    Modeling the VVS: June 2007 Monthly Profile

    Photos here:
    http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...8&d=1160603797
    http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...0&d=1160603797

    All mistakes are the same. Broun colour (never used in VVS), two-tone scheme instead of NKAP-43.

    “Za Leningrad!” was not the only aircraft in that regiments. It was a series, gift to 566 shap, bought on money from Leningrad citizens.

    2: about colors:

    This is original VVS colors. Compare “Acid light-green” by Erik Pilawski and green AMT-4 or blackgreen AMT-6 on this photos:

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    Best wishes!
    P.S. Sorry, English is not my native language, so might be mistakes.
    P.P.S. Try this swatch in attachment, You will see the difference
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    Last edited by =KAG=Bersrk; 13th February 2008 at 17:34.
    Best wishes, Evgeny.
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    Zerstorer Research Work Group, "SKG210/ZG1 in action over Ostfront"

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