Westland Lysander

[ratfugel]

Always pleased to help. (Yea, this is how it looked at first till I dumped it. It actually is in scale, believe it or not.) Had to go and fetch it back as you can see. Life's hard sometimes.

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[AGNT_Matt]

"ok... which one of you left a wheelbarrow on the runway?" lol. nice work, ladder looks fine, just needs the SOE collection/deployment paint scheme now



mmmm nice and tasty semi-matte/gloss black

[Jesters-Ink]

Ratfugel, I have to ask this question and please don?t take it as an insult.
Are you drawing these profiles from scratch or are you repainting over scans?
I?m not saying its right or wrong, but I have to ask because I see parts of your profiles which look like they are from another image quality and style.
As an example on this drawing here, your rudder where it joins to the vertical stabilizer, the tail wheel and to some extent the main wheel, the Radiator flaps and some other areas look like they are from scans or something?

[ratfugel]

Simple answer to one of the questions. I don't just use Photoshop, I also use 3D programs to help things along a bit. If you look at my other work, elsewhere on Simmers you will see lots of 3D images also created from scratch. Does that help? I haven't made many profiles yet, but I think I'm getting the general idea at last. Trouble is, I am used to my images having substance, and not just semi-flat, lifeless drawings like a lot of profiles that I have seen. This could be why my work might seem a little different from the norm. If I am setting a precedent, and upsetting anyone then it's a bit unfortunate. Incidentally, that's a cracking picture of a Lizzie. Never seen one as good before. Makes my primitive effort look very poor indeed. Must try harder or give it up. There's no middle.

[ratfugel]

Further to the foregoing. When I tried to make the rad flaps, I realised that to look right - and angled outwards - they would need to be lit differently , and also having a distinct shadow might help. The same thing happened with the wing struts. They angle inwards . On a flat profile that doesn't matter much, but on my type of image it does. I think I mentioned at the very beginning, that I was going to take the drawing to bits to create the final image. Accordingly, I made 12 separate images on different files, and worked each one separately. I also made the crew members separately, not very well, but adequate for my purpose. Now, one of the beauties of finalising in Photoshop is that one can do almost anything with one's images. Especially when it came to reassembly. I don't think one can take this imaging game seriously unless one has a good working knowledge of more than one imaging program. Lstly, I think I boobed. Looking at your black Lysander, I noticed I had missed the fact that the ladder has a bottom step, essential for some poor sod in hurry to climb aboard. The following and definitely my last Lizzie image puts this right.

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[Jesters-Ink]

I'll keep my comments to myself
Carry on Gents, as you were.

[Vacajun]

Really nice work!
Just one comment for your consideration--IMHO the vertical tail and rudder are as flat as my high school sweetheart and could stand some detailing per Matt's photo.

[JMSmith]

i don't know what high school you went to,

but the one i attended they were very well endowed!!!!!!

[ratfugel]

Got your point about the vertical bits. Seems I could have done with a decent picture showing where the ribs went. Looks like one's never done with these things........! (I've heard about these ladies who need a stamp marked'front'. Never thought of a comparison with 'tail', although when you think deeper....)

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[ratfugel]

See what I mean about flat surfaces. The black Lizzie is the first I've seen with ribs showing.

rat.