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    Mirage F1CE

    First profile for quite a while, and using Aircraftprofile's shading methods for the first time, too. The way I did profiles before usually limited me to doing one scheme without a major rework, but this time I've done it with several paint schemes in mind.

    Would just like some thoughts on how it's coming along so far. Any comments, good or bad are appreciated.



    Cheers!
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    Re: Mirage F1CE

    Good start mate!
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    Re: Mirage F1CE

    Nice start. A few comments:

    * The wing should blend in the fuselage a bit more. Erase some of the light near the root. This way, it will look more natural and the wingtip will seem to stand out.
    * You've achieved a very nice highlighting effect on the nose cone. You should extend that further, at least up to or past the cockpit, which looks flat.

    Do you have any decent line drawings of the F.1? I've been looking for some for a long time with no success...
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    Re: Mirage F1CE

    Thanks for the tips - shall get round to working on those areas now.

    As for the line drawings, I used these these. Nice and comprehensive, with plenty of different variants of the F1, including a twin stick.
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    Re: Mirage F1CE

    Nice work my young apprentice ;-) ! I feel quite flattered that somebody is acctually using my technique...glad that it have inspired you, and itīs good to see that you have come up with such a nice example.

    I do however have some things for your consideration:

    1. The shade on tope of the aircraft seem alittle too strong, try to tone it down abit (itīs almost as strong as the shade at the bottom of the aircraft)

    2. The shadow cast by the wing and the tail should fade the further down the fuselage it gets. Iīm not sure how to explain it, but if you light source is coming from a 12 oīclock high position (like I use), the shade from the a wing will ever be visible at the bottom of teh fuselage, since that part is shaded by the fuselage itself, rather than the wing.

    3. Wing shades are hard...very very hard, but i have found that applying a light shade to rear par of the wing, and the part of the wing, tahtīs nearest the fuselage, gives a nice effect. Teh wing you are depicting here, look too bright i my eyes.

    4. The fuselage in front of the intake needs abit more shading i think. A light shade that streaches from the bottom to about the middle of the fuselage will make it look rounder, and be more consistent to the rest of the aircraft.

    5. Iīm by no means a Mirage expert, but i know many aircrafts from this era used a high gloss paint. If thatīs the case for the aircraft you are depicting, you sould make a harder and more narrow highlight...that will give the impression of a higher gloss paint.

    6. The shade from the wing on the smaller fin at the bottom of the rear fuselage, should be in a different angle than the shade on the fuselage.

    I hope you can sue these comments...I think you are well underway, and this will be a great rendition once you are finished ! Keep up teh good work, and never hesitate to ask for advice !
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    Re: Mirage F1CE

    Thanks again, and I've made a few changes in light of a few suggestions. However, I may have to take issue with a few points:

    Quote Originally Posted by Aircraftprofiles View Post
    4. The fuselage in front of the intake needs abit more shading i think. A light shade that streaches from the bottom to about the middle of the fuselage will make it look rounder, and be more consistent to the rest of the aircraft.

    5. Iīm by no means a Mirage expert, but i know many aircrafts from this era used a high gloss paint. If thatīs the case for the aircraft you are depicting, you sould make a harder and more narrow highlight...that will give the impression of a higher gloss paint.

    6. The shade from the wing on the smaller fin at the bottom of the rear fuselage, should be in a different angle than the shade on the fuselage.
    4. From what I can see, from photos on the web and from ones I've taken, the forward fuselage is quite flat, certainly compared to the nose cone.

    5. Firstly, I'm concentrating on Spanish paints, which, depending on how freshly painted they are, they seem to vary from a fairly glossy to a matt finish. Seeing as I like weathered and dirty aircraft, I'll probably skip the glossy option!

    6. I would have thought the same, but going by this photo, they seem to be pretty much at the same angle. I suppose the flaps could be down, thus changing the angle of the shadow? Can't really tell from that particular photo. I could have made a couple of errors though, so feel free to correct me.

    And a slighly updated version:
    Last edited by Tweek; 29th September 2009 at 20:27.
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    Re: Mirage F1CE

    Getting there ! Give me some time to look at it and i might have some additioal points to make...but i really like the shadings you have at the moment...keep up the good work !
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    Re: Mirage F1CE

    This'll do for today. Still some way to go, and still open to criticism:

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    Re: Mirage F1CE

    Looking good !

    I still think you should do two things:

    1. Lighten up the shade on top of the aircraft

    2. add a gradient shade under the wing and tail

    other than that, it looks great !
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    Re: Mirage F1CE

    Took those points into consideration, and I've got it to a stage I'm happy with, so unless there's any glaring errors that need to be fixed, I consider it finished!

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