Lozenge Camoflage Template Project

[RAF_Loke]

I found some stuff that we can use to create a Lozenge camoflage template, some images and a few links.

http://content.answers.com/main/cont...ft_lozenge.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/paul-kleins...torialseng.htm

http://www.wwiaviation.com/cammo.shtml

http://www.wwiaviation.com/lozenge.shtml

http://www.pegasusmodels.com/t5col-up.jpg
5 colour upper.

http://www.pegasusmodels.com/t5col-low.jpg
5 colour lower.

http://www.pegasusmodels.com/4colourup.jpg
4 colour upper.

http://www.pegasusmodels.com/4colourlo.jpg
4 colour lower.

If this topic is posted in the wrong forum, then please move it to the correct one.

[Post edited by adlabs6: Images changed to links.]

[Vigilante]

Those are great, Loke! Here's a few more, including a very interesting article on the colors used in these patterns.

http://www.wwi-models.org/misc/Color...oz2/index.html

http://members.tripod.com/~Hans_Voss...ml/lozenge.htm

http://www.aerodromerc.com/Frames_Ma...ozenge_5_Color

http://www.aeroconservancy.com/pfalz2690fabric.htm

http://www.aeroconservancy.com/halbfabric.htm

[adlabs6]

Looks good.

A quick note: Out of courtesy to the sites who are hosting these images and their bandwidth, lets use links instead of imbedding the images in the posts.

Of course, if you are hosting images yourself, then imbedding is fine.

[Edit note: I'll change the pics in Loke's post to links.]

[RAF_Loke]

Sure np Adlabs, will remember that in the future . Ty!

[BLOWHARD]

Look no further than my banner Or here

Or for a HUGE authoritative color run-down, 11 forum pages worth with jpg samples, go here-
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/sh...hlight=lozenge
If you guys want I can post bolts of what I've got, 4 and 5 color top and bottom. I've got a layered PSD with paths somewhere around here too.

[Aero_Shodanjo]

Forgive my ignorance folks... But what's this all about with lozenge pattern? I mean why it seems so special?

I really dont know anything about it until I saw Vig's screenshot... And now Im confused...

[adlabs6]

I think the main idea is to establish a basic collection which will ease the making of these patterns. It would be a time saver if there was a template which contained a general palette of patterns and colors when skinning.

I was thinking last night, that if some of these patterns could be re-created using vector shapes, then they could be scaled for use on different sims. Since they are repeating patterns, only one block would need to be re-created, then later copied and interlocked as desired.

[BLOWHARD]

I'm not at all sure what's going on here either Shodanjo. Is this for people want to work on WW1 German or Austrian aeroplanes or, like Vigilante and his custom skins?
What did you have in mind Loke? Fantasy WW2 skins or accurate WW1 skins?

only one block would need to be re-created

On Vigilante's Gladiator, the pattern looks completely spurious, nothing like any of the printed fabrics that were used in WW1, but that's ok here, in fact, even better because it his own creation.
The pattern is an overall repeat.
BUT on the real aircraft, at least the German 4 and 5 color patterns, it was a bolt of printed fabric with a repeat pattern 54 inches wide by x amount long. The strips were sown together to forn a piece large enough to cover a wing. In some cases with thinner wings or fuselage panels could be covered with that 54inch strip. Some manufacturers used diagonal covering. Just like WW2 aircraft, you really need to consult as many photos of your subject as possible to decide how the fabric was applied.
For flexibility, you'd want to create a bolt of fabric the correct width and a long enough length to fit your plane.
So, if you want an accurate reproduction, you need strips of texture, but, if you want to make up your own, the sky is the limit.
I've got vecotor paths in PS now. I've been doing WW1 skins for a while now

[Greif]

Hi Blowhard,

a lazzy question, I really don?t know. What a flightsim is that? It look?s very good. I thing it must get a place under my christmas-tree.

Best regards.....Greif

[RAF_Loke]

Eh where to start .

BLOWHARD:
First off, anything you would like to share would be much appreciated.
Second; yes I've already made a few WW1 alike skins especially for the I-153. That was before we got the Gladiator and Cr.42.
So I am thinking on accurate WW1 skins. Like this one...



Adlabs: You are correct, the idea is that we have a template that people can use to make this highly difficult lozenge pattern. It has been a pain the few skins with lozenge pattern I've made so far.

I was thinking last night, that if some of these patterns could be re-created using vector shapes.

Good idea! Not that I know very much about working with vector shapes.

Last thing. There is a group of Russians working on a WW1 sim build on the IL-2 engine .