BTW PM x4btr on simmers and ask if has anything that might help.
He is the master of Russian built AC.
And he is a good guy.
That link you posted is not to the same AC, but to the "production" AC (I think).
I feel your pain ~Winger~ I've been through this soooo many times when basing template work on in game voids. Not a good idea.
I did state when uploading my older templates they were based on the game voids so that ppl knew they were going to be, how can I say, a joke?
Last line, pls don't give up, this is a well loved AC and needs a good template.
P.S. Gotta love the daft mirrors for the lerons and the one around the engine covers.
Ok, fellows.
This is how she looks like at the moment. Not all corrections done yet.
I?m not sure ?bout the engine cover, midwing area and the wingroots.![]()
Pure, without weathering
Full actual weathering
Camo examples
Thanks for watching
Winger
"Heaven........Where is my angel ? ---- I need her. Now!"
This was my favorite aircraft, back in the days that Il-2 FB was still a dreamThe aircraft has little fuel load and is easy to bring down, almost like a zero. But the acceleration, speed en manouevrability is very very good. Like a frail racing horse
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Anyways, only six of them where made IIRC. It will be easy to skin them all![]()
So far as I can see, the MiG-3U in IL2FB is indeed the MiG-3U and not the I-230. Not much less prototypical, but nonetheless.... In any event, I published a photo of one of the -3Us at Moscow and a description (brief) of the project on p. 204 of SAAFC.
Noting the timing of the aircraft, allow me to recommend AMT type paints. Cheers.
Platypus:
Only six of them.
Quote "It will be easy to skin them all"
How can I skin them all when I got not enough material to do just the panel lines right ?
But I?LL DO MY BEST![]()
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x4btr:
My confusion became bigger & bigger!I-230 - Mig-3U. What are the differences?
I thought it was the same a/c and just 6 were built. Is the so called type D fighter the same like the I-230 or the 3U and which one is exactly available in IL-2 ?
At the moment the project in under complete rework to correct details like panel lines, rivets etc. etc.
That?s a lot of work because all pictures and drawings I got show different positions for lines and details or are not sharp enough.
And the biggest prob: I have no picture or drawing from the bottom side.
If I got it all together I?ll use the correct coloration. Thanks for the hint.
Winger
"Heaven........Where is my angel ? ---- I need her. Now!"
The number "six" is from an Oleg quote some years ago. I cannot give you any sources on that. And of course, you are the artist and you decide what to skin or notIn my mind, no-one really made an attempt to make a historical accurate skin for this particular aircraft. It is very brave of you to do so
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Just for historical interest, I'll try to clarify. The original prototype in question for this machine was the MiG OKB's Type D. They had no use in the bureau for any other designation. The government (NKAP) became interested in the machine and assigned the designation I-230, ordering a prototype. But the bureau branched off with that project towards the I-220 series (-221, -222, -225, etc). The original Type D (with some modification) is the aircraft that was sent to the NII VVS, which got the designation "MiG-3U" at that facility.
The MiG-3U failed its State Examination. But, the MiG OKB on its own initiative built five additional machines, and used some political influence to have four of these (numbers "02", "04", "05" and "06") sent to a PVO unit around Moscow (12 GIAP PVO). These PVO units, responsible for high-altitude interception and such like, were a bit used to testing prototypes under field conditions. The regiment flew the aircraft for 2-3 months (ca. Sep-Nov 43), and reckoned that they were not very good. The two surviving machines (two were wrecked in landing problems) were shipped back to the OKB, and that was the end of them.
Therefore, it was sort-of the I-230, but better in my view to say Type D. Then it was the MiG-3U. There were six total, if one counts the Type D ptototype at the NII VVS, plus the five more built. Hope that sorts out these details.
By the way, there are no accurate line drawings for the MiG-3U. You'll just have to do the best you can. There is only one photo known of these aircraft at Moscow, that is "02" seen on p.204. Not much to go on, alas.