The Anton....again???

[gamary]

(moving all the PC's and TV's around in the house)

Taking the ole electronics for a walk, Jesters?

Nice start. Will be looking forward to it.

[JMSmith]

he did not do it,

his beloved did the lifting

[Otterkins2]

These are some of the larger errors or ommissions in your drawing:

1. Spinner is the wrong shape.
2. Props are too thick and set too far back.
3. Upper nose shape incorrect.
4. Panel line is set too far down and is not straight as shown.
5. Panel line too far back. No clearance flare for MG on cowl.
6. Bottom edge of MG cowl is sloped.
7. Blister is too pronounced and egg shaped.
8. Shape of exhaust panel wrong and cooling doors wrong shape and position.
9. Canopy needs adjustment and has no de-icing lines.
10. Head armour set too far forward.
11. Antenna lead-in too small and too far forward. Only one line inside canopy.
12. Glass is wrong shape.
13. Fuel door is too small and hinge too long.
14. Storage access door wrong shape and position. Latches wrong shape.
15. Fuselage outline is wrong from this point back.
16. Trestle point is too small and too far back.
17. This hinge is continuous and inspection door is too wide.
18. This hinge point lines up with the upper two and is straight.
19. Horizontal stabilizer filet is the wrong shape.
20. Tail section joint is too far back.
21. DF loop is too far forward.
22. Step rung too narrow and too far forward.
23. Wing filet is wrong shape with too many rivets.
24. Step door cover is wrong size and position.
25. Gun cover wrong shape and too far outboard.
26. Morane antenna in wrong position and too short.
27. Shell ejuction port too far outboard and too narrow.
28. Gear is way too short and angle needs adjustment. The gear bay is too big.
29. Forward wing fillet is wrong shape.
30. Guns too thin and too far outboard.
31. Oil pump clearance blister missing.

There are many more mistakes, but these are the most obvious ones that people will pick up on right away.

[BLOWHARD]

Ok, I'm not trying to start any fights or what-not but I have a question. I didn't notice this until I saw Jesters shaded version, but it looks like the wing leading edge is the same angle as the trailing ege. I looked over versious drawings I have and all the profiles look the same. But that can be right, the Fw190 trailing edge is a steeper angle than the leading edge yet the drawings, Otters and the drawings I have here, several, all show near matching angles for both front and rear wing edges.
What's going on??? Am I missing something, some kind of weird optical illusion?
It might be right but it sure doesn't look right :P

[Otterkins2]

I'm not sure what you mean BH...can you copy the drawing and demonstrate briefly what you think is wrong? Jester's drawing is done from my line work by the way, so it should be identical unless he's discovered something he's not told me yet. We've worked on getting it right for close to two years now...but if there's something wrong, may as well get it fixed eh?

In the meantime, can anyone translate this into English for me???

[GiantFlyingRobots]

I don't know the exact answer to BLOWHARDS question, but even a cursory look in photo-shop shows the leading and trailing edges to have a difference of approximately 6°.

It never ceases to amaze me the attention to detail that all things Luftwaffe receives, that's why as much as I'd like to, I rarely attempt them,

My work cant stand up to that type of scrutiny.

[BLOWHARD]

What GFR said I wasn't clear, sorry. I meant I didn't notice on the drawing but that it's easier to see in the shaded version. Not that they aren't the same.
What I'm seeing, and I checked your drawing, is that the leading edge and trailing edge angles are the same or nearly. However, on the real plane the leading edge is less of an angle than the trailing edge. Your drawing, nor all the published drawings, show this difference. I can't see any reason why the profile of the wing wouldn't reflect that different angle. Shouldn't the trailing edge look like a different angle?
At least you are in good company, it seems this feature has been duplicated by everyone.
If it is something that should be shown then you might have an opportunity for a first!
If you still don't understand what I mean I'll do a comparison when I get home.

[Jesters-Ink]

Interesting stuff aint it BH . . .
I took another look at it after your question, with an interesting find on my drawing.
My leading edge has more of an angle to it than the trailing edge, which struck me as being backward too.

So I checked photographs to see why I had done what I had done . . . .
Start and end points for all 4 corners of the wing look like they are in the correct position, so what gives . . . . . . .
I think (and its only a thought) the trailing edge is angled slightly downwards towards the wing tip, giving it the wrong looking angle, but I cant be sure.
On the photographs I have, the wing looks just about spot on, so that’s all I can say really. It might be that I have added some whacky perspective by mistake or misread the photographs and gone down the wrong road, I am very much open to suggestions .

Just nipping to the shops to buy a very large bag of popcorn and then sit by the PC waiting for the answers to pour in .

[BLOWHARD]

POPCORN???? How can you eat at a time like this?!?!?!

What I did is simple but I assume it's a fairly accurate way to compare the wing angles. I took the top view of a wing, from the Aero Details book, laid it over Otter's drawing and then sized it to fit at the correct points and the wing tip center line. I don't have high res versions of Otter's drawing so it's not too pretty-

It turns out the Aero Details drawing matches top to side with itself pretty good but the other sets, Czech and Polish, don't match up and show the same angles for both leading and trailing edges.

Of course this presupposes that the Aero Details wing top view is correct. At any rate, if the leading edge is a different angle than the trailing edge, I'd think it should show in the profile...unless there is some weird optical conclusion/confusion going on.

Just my 2 cents, I'll leave it up to people who know more about this stuff than myself and my Mk.I eyeball

[Otterkins2]

While I'm waiting to get the wing thing sorted out, I thought I'd fill up the rest of my plug in page.....