Il 2m3

[JMSmith]

prop still need dulling down some,
and i have a problem with your undersurface colour, needs slightly more blue, in my opinion

[JMSmith]

right,

i knew trawling through all my millions of AWF images would be worth it,

here is a peice of a real aircraft, not the il2, still in the original colour

[Wlad-FR]

Hi Maciej,
Beautyfull IL2 !! I like this "tank"
Here is the blue that I usually used for my soviet aircraft. And now you have original russian green color thanks to JMSmith !!
Best regards
Wlad

[Maciej N]

right,

i knew trawling through all my millions of AWF images would be worth it,

here is a peice of a real aircraft, not the il2, still in the original colour

Great reference! Thanks, thanks Wlad too This week I'll show You my reworked Il-2's.

[Maciej N]

This time from another side white "17", I did some changes with graphic as You all wrote before - many thanks

[Baron]

Maciek,

that's looking great! The new main wheel looks superb. The only thing I would change in this profile is the lighting of the bombs under the wings. There can't be so much light. The rest is amazing.

Cheers,

[Wlad-FR]

Maciej,
I saw your Il2 profiles published in the last Militaria XX Wieku. Sure, there are looking great.
All the best for 2011

Wlad

[Maciej N]

Maciej,
I saw your Il2 profiles published in the last Militaria XX Wieku. Sure, there are looking great.
All the best for 2011

Wlad

Hello Wlad
Thanks! They were published before I did a lot of changes with surfaces. My final work soon will be publish at book. Still I'm reworking my projekt to do it "perfect"

[x4btr]

here is a peice of a real aircraft, not the il2, still in the original colour

This is indeed a valuable bit of evidence. However, often it is the case that understanding the context of the evidence is as important as the artefact, itself. This bit is a great case in point.

The piece here is the preserved bit of fuselage from an LaGG-3 in a Finnish museum collection. This item demonstrates authentic examples of Soviet aviation lacquers AMT-4 Green, AMT-6 Black, and AMT-7 Blue. Their appearance is actually pretty good (but not strictly as they would have been in 1941-45) noting the age of the piece.

The appearance of these colours is therefore most helpful for use on the Il-2 when profiling an aircraft wearing the three-colour NKAP Template scheme. However, it should be noted that most Il-2s were in fact painted with the older lacquer system of AII (or 'A2' if one prefers) finishes. These were (generally) brighter in colouration that AMT lacquers, and slightly shifted in tone. So far, no two-colour schemes have been found on any Il-2 specimen utilising AMT paints; these should be AII lacquer.

Suitable colour chips can be found on this site, or here as well.

Happy profiling.

[gamary]

This is indeed a valuable bit of evidence. However, often it is the case that understanding the context of the evidence is as important as the artefact, itself. This bit is a great case in point.

The piece here is the preserved bit of fuselage from an LaGG-3 in a Finnish museum collection. This item demonstrates authentic examples of Soviet aviation lacquers AMT-4 Green, AMT-6 Black, and AMT-7 Blue. Their appearance is actually pretty good (but not strictly as they would have been in 1941-45) noting the age of the piece.

Thanks, x4btr, for making that point. Not to mention that there are other parameters to take into account. Such as:

What type of camera has been used to take the picture? Most cameras distort colours to some degree.

What is the dominant colour of the surroundings? Take a picture of an object in a room with white walls, then take another picture in a room with different colours, then go outside and take a picture under a clear blue summer sky. Or a dull grey winter overcast. And what is the result? The same object, pictured by the same camera has different colours...

Colour is a shifting and relative notion. Pictures such as this one should be used for what they're worth: a useful and approximate indication, not God's own truth.