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    Re: Are these drawings OK to use? ("Frank")

    Mangas,

    Keep it coming!! Now you're getting into the hard part IMHO-shadows and highlights.

    For your consideration, try making the shadows and highlights consistent in sun direction and intensity. The shadow behind the cowl is too intense and not in agreement with the sun direction and intensity on the shadow under the tail. The tail shadow appears to be too narrow and too curved. The cowl flaps need shading as they appear 2-D now.

    Finally, the upper prop blade highlight is bending in the wrong direction-I believe it should be along the leading edge of the blade for shaping.

    Impressive start!
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    Re: Are these drawings OK to use? ("Frank")

    Quote Originally Posted by Vacajun View Post
    Mangas,

    Keep it coming!! Now you're getting into the hard part IMHO-shadows and highlights.

    For your consideration, try making the shadows and highlights consistent in sun direction and intensity. The shadow behind the cowl is too intense and not in agreement with the sun direction and intensity on the shadow under the tail. The tail shadow appears to be too narrow and too curved. The cowl flaps need shading as they appear 2-D now.

    Finally, the upper prop blade highlight is bending in the wrong direction-I believe it should be along the leading edge of the blade for shaping.

    Impressive start!
    Thank you... But why everybody keep telling me about the wrong cowl shadow? It was WIP, I wanted to do smth. like this:
    http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2693/ki84wip7.jpg
    But I'm still not satisfied with the tubes look...
    (We are not allowed to take details from real photoes while profiling, are we? Everything must be do manually, right?)

    Tomorrow I'll try to edit the rest things you mentioned...
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    Re: Are these drawings OK to use? ("Frank")

    Quote Originally Posted by GiantFlyingRobots View Post
    Believe me getting NMF to look right is a pain in the ass.
    Is there any sort of tutorial here to make a NMF stuff?
    I'm making it intuitively so far and need master's suggestions:

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    Re: Are these drawings OK to use? ("Frank")

    Quote Originally Posted by Mangas View Post
    Is there any sort of tutorial here to make a NMF stuff?
    I'm making it intuitively so far and need master's suggestions:
    Intuitive is best, and looking at what you have you have pretty good intuition.

    Looks the goods so far, if perhaps a little dark (could be my monitor tho) now I'd just experiment with Gaussian blurs and changes of the opacity levels to get the desired effect.

    You may also want to add a reflected light effect along the bottom of the fuselage, it'll help round out the fuselage shape.

    Keep at it, I've been trying to get it right for years, and it'll probably be years til im satisfied.
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    Re: Are these drawings OK to use? ("Frank")

    You may also want to add a reflected light effect along the bottom of the fuselage, it'll help round out the fuselage shape.
    +1
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    Re: Are these drawings OK to use? ("Frank")

    A lot of the trick in NMF is the reflection colours from ground/sky as for the reflected light underneath that's all personal taste, one of those things I've tried but am not convinced about. No harm in trying it on a fresh layer though.
    Harriers...uppy downy things.
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    Re: Are these drawings OK to use? ("Frank")

    Hey Mangas,
    I just tried doing the wing real quick. Mine isn't too different than yours but maybe yours could do with a stronger more blended shadow along the underside of the leading edge. The more blend from light to dark you have will round the leading edge more.
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    You could also try more shadow on the underside of the horizontal stabilizer and more light on top.
    I think it's coming along pretty good. The main wheel hub looks REALLY good!

    FAST AND BULBOUS!
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    Re: Are these drawings OK to use? ("Frank")

    way, pepol, so i'm not only 1 who spends weekends like other dais, tinkerin' with PS?

    well, jokes aside, thanks to all for the replies... (I hope I'm not boring you with "everyday updates"? )

    That add shine under belly is not a prob to add:
    http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9369/ki84wip10.jpg

    But I think I screwd my rivets rows... They look like <....> ...like not rivets!
    How do you do 'em round?
    Besides, if I get it right, rivets should look "light" on dark surfaces & "dark" on NMF/light painted surfaces? Right? The same stands for panel lines?

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