Arado Ar 234 "Blitz"

[gamary]

Thanks to both of you for the comments. I'll rework the model accordingly. I don't want the RATO pack too shiny as I don't think they were polished/cleaned too often, but I'll look into a small increase anyway. But I will change the rivets.

@Simon: what are those the "latest 2 books from Classic Publication"? I'm not sure I know these.

As for my "speed"; the explanation is rather simple. 1?) I'm on holiday 2?) I have a cool job working in a school: I'm payed minimum wage but I have a short work week (2 days and 2 nights grouped together = 5 day week-end )

[Baron]

Here the books: Included are colour chips, that are much better tahn the old in the Monogram book.

Amazon.com: Luftwaffe Camouflage and Markings, 1933-1945, Vol. 2: Ken Merrick: Books

Amazon.com: Luftwaffe Camouflage and Markings, 1933-1945, Vol. 2: Ken Merrick: Books

[Baron]

Cation about the greyscale thing, converting color to B&W on a computer, making B&W Xeroxes, etc, can never come close to what actual film does. At best, it's just another way to arrive at a guess. The contrast that you get with real film is so much different than with conversion to greyscale on a computer screen, MUCH less contrast with greyscale. Plus, different film stocks, use of filters on the lenses and filters and paper used in making the photo print make for too many variable to be able to account for accurately.
As long as that is kept in mind. There's nothing wrong with checking that way but it's not a safe way to make any definitive decision.
No offense Baron, you're probably aware of this, but not everyone is. It's always good to add a disclaimer to anything when you're interpreting B&W photos

Hi Blowhard!

Yes I'm of course aware of this. Please be patient, my english is really too horrible to discribe how real films work and how difficult it is to find the right colours of a b/w photograph. Thank you for the detailed info for those who don't know that. For me this methode is helpful, because I know when I can use it. Many times it doesn't work. Best refernce are colour pics, but often not available.

Cheers,

[JMSmith]

hi GM,

looks fine with me, checked all my images and drawings and can't find any faults.

just remember if you hang that bomb underneath to change the angle of the aircraft from nose down to slightly tail down, my own personal opinion of your profile is that it is very slightly too far nose down, probably half a gnats knacker ( this is a mechanics term used when lining up parts, the final adjustments is in two measurements, a gnats knacker or the smaller one, half a gnats knacker) have looked at all my images the aircarft varid a lot with it's sit, from nose down through horizontal to tail down, so it's up to you, nobody can say you are wrong

ps, can you get me a job with you!

[gamary]

looks fine with me, checked all my images and drawings and can't find any faults

If you haven't found any, then there are no faults in the drawing.

As for the job, I'm sure there are plenty of stupid jobs with poor pay in the UK, no? I work as a dormitory "boss", i.e. yelling at kids. It's not hard but it is a bit frustrating at times: have you ever looked back at the years and thought "my good, I've said no talking in the hall more than 76,000 times in my lifetime" ?

[BLOWHARD]

Oh yes, those books are great, I got copies as soon as they were available!!!!
But I wouldn't trade in my old Monogram guide or the Ullmann book either! Every bit counts!

Baron, your English is pretty good. Take it from an American, ANYONE'S English is better than American English
About the film, I've noticed old hands and experts use this method all the time, but rarely explain how much knowledge and experience is needed to really understand what is involved. I just wanted to give people here a heads-up about that. I know film pretty good, but I think only good enough not to trust my eyes 100%

Gamary, PLEASE do a Watson's Whizzers plane!!!


Me 262 - Watson's Whizzers Main Menu
I'm pretty sure I have some info around here...

[gamary]

Here she is in the old RLM 70/71/65 scheme. Do the colours seem OK to you guys? I've been using the Ullman book for reference, but wherever you get the colours samples, they need to be lightened up for scale effect. That means I'm never sure it's right.



I've corrected the swastika and gave it the right dimensions. I've also added an SC 1000 to it. Ooops, I just realized there a horizontal fin missing on the SC 1000!

I'll go correct that...

BH, I'd be happy to do "Jane I" and maybe others, but I lack decent reference pics so if you have some material, I'd be interested.

[JMSmith]

hi GM,

and you ignored my comment about dropping the tail when the bomb is fitted, what is it, an empty casing

[Baron]

Hi Ga?tan!

Looks good! The colours (if RLM70/71/76) should be reworked as the contrast between these 2 colours is too strong! Have a look at the attached image. Contrast between RLM70/71 or 81/82 is nearly the same.

I know my grayscale methode is not really the best, but in this case a possiblity to prove the colours. I think your blackgreen is much too dark in comparison to the green.



(RLM 70/71/65 Source: Luftwaffe Camouflage and Markings - Classic Publication)

BTW: you have forgotten the periscope colour!

Cheers, Simon

[JMSmith]

hi simon,
i was not going to tell him about the periscope

going back to the subject, here is a colour chart i compiled for profile artwork, the reason being was to get us all working to the same set of colours, if you click on theis link you will see the full discussion,

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