EMB-312 Tucano

[gamary]

It certainly does help, Grubby. (Too bad the thanks button is gone ).

I've got to leave for a few days but upon my return, I'll try to improve it as you show. As you say, it might be a tad too glossy now but it does help me understand how to do it.

Thanks a million!

[gamary]

Here's the completed Brazilian version (not glossy):



I picked it up on Airliners.net but unfortunately I can't figure out what unit it comes from. As far as I can tell, several fighter units of the BrAF also operate the Tucano. And then there are a few training units, but I couldn't find much info. Since this one carries the "T-27" marking instead if "A-27", I imagine that it belongs to a training unit. Can anybody help me about this? Thanks in advance!

[JMSmith]

hi GM,

guess where i found the answer?

under the image on airliners.net

1341/NT (cn 312055) Brazilian Air Force type designator; T-27 Unit: 1/5 GAv Rumba. back then this tucano was based at Natal AFB, hence the NT tail code,
but later it was transfered to Porto Velho AFB.

[VectoredThrust]

Here's the completed Brazilian version (not glossy):



I picked it up on Airliners.net but unfortunately I can't figure out what unit it comes from. As far as I can tell, several fighter units of the BrAF also operate the Tucano. And then there are a few training units, but I couldn't find much info. Since this one carries the "T-27" marking instead if "A-27", I imagine that it belongs to a training unit. Can anybody help me about this? Thanks in advance!

The Tucano was originally intended to fill a training role, and it still does. At some point it was determined that the aircraft could also assist SIVAM and COIN missions. The 312 was never fitted with internal weapons systems, but was adapted to carry rocket pods, AA missiles, and gun pods. I have more information stashed away and will do some digging to provide specifics. I don't remember there being any major difference between the A and T models, other than their role... If that is the case, then it is very likely that "T" designated Tucanos can, and are, used in the A role.

[VectoredThrust]

Some interesting details:

The EMB-312 (T/AT-27) uses an P&W PT-6A-25C turboprop (750 shp) driving a 3-bladed variable pitch Hartzell.

The Shorts Tucano uses a Garret TPE331-12B turboprop (1100 shp) driving a 4-bladed VP Hartzell.

Both a/c have the same maximum speed, but the Shorts has a slightly faster max level and cruising speed. The Shorts has a much higher climb rate (3510ft/min vs 2230ft/min). Both a/c have essentially the same endurance figures (around 5 hours).

The Shorts has a maximum range of 3317km at FL250 versus the Tucano's 1843km at FL200.

The wingspan on the Shorts is 3.4 inches longer than on the Tuc, but the Tuc's wing area is larger by 1sq foot (208 vs 209).

MTOW on the Tuc is 5,622lb
MTOW on the Shorts is 5,952lb

The Tuc uses an MB BR8LC ejection seat, whereas the Shorts uses an MB Mk8LCP.

[gamary]

hi GM,

guess where i found the answer?

under the image on airliners.net

1341/NT (cn 312055) Brazilian Air Force type designator; T-27 Unit: 1/5 GAv Rumba. back then this tucano was based at Natal AFB, hence the NT tail code,
but later it was transfered to Porto Velho AFB.

John, have you been hitting the Bacardi a tad too much?

At first, I thought "how stupid of me I didn't even notice that". So I went back and looked at the page again. But I still couldn't see it. Eventually I realized that we were not talking of the same aircraft. Mine is 1380 (c/n 312096) and has no tail code.

Anyway, here is another French one (for John who thinks French is ***y):

This one also belongs to EPNAA but has the early red-and-white scheme.

VT, thanks for the info. Indeed, I believe the A-27 and T-27 are the same. Maybe they have minor mods such as extra wiring to shoot the weapons, but basically they should be the same airframe. On the other hand, I didn't know that the S-312 had such superior performance!

[JMSmith]

only had 2

that will teach me to look at the image properly it's close, what do you want, blood

[JMSmith]

now why did you use this aircraft,

3/4 view, when there is all those lovely side views to use

[gamary]

Here's the lead ship for the Smoke Squadron in 2007. Notice that I managed to completely foul up the glossy effect despite Grubby's best efforts.



Only missing thing AFAIK is the name of the pilot and 2nd crewmember (co-pilot?navigator?RIO? I guess GIB fits the bill best).

I've written to the guys holding the Smoke Squadron website hoping for some help but I'm not sure I'll have any feedback there. (My Portuguese is bad. Is "spaghetti" portuguese or spanish? I always forget. ) Can anybody help me here?

Also I had to make up part of the stenciling on the engine cowl. I could make out part of it on my pics, but I'm fairly sure the part that says "NO ELEPHANTS IN ALBUQUERQUE" lacks authenticity. Thank God for gaussian blur.

[mclaring]

gamary,

You'll have to change the stencil "No elephants in Albuquerque" as I think at least one zoo there has them. wot about change to "elephants in Albuquerque rule OK"

Mclaring