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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    Not a problem Espenlaub, though my German isn't perfect here is what I made of it.


    Not all profiles have to have shadows persay. Correct outlines and details, correct colors are things I find most important and those are correct in Heli's drawings.

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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

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    Hi Heli!

    nice photo and nicer profile. Good work. I just think you have missed the shadow produced by the horizontal tail.

    Cheers, Simon
    Hi Simon,

    do you like the profile with strong shadows really better?

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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    Hi Helmut!

    I like it more with the shadow from the horizontal tail unit. As Supah wrote, shadows and lights make it easier to understand the shape. The lighting on your drawings is a good choice to present your drawings, but if you do shadows (fuselage, under the wing etc) you should do it in the whole drawing and not miss some parts. One last note, if you do the shadow there, you also should to the shadow on the fuselage that is made by the strut from the fuselage to the horizontal tail unit.

    Cheers Simon

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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    Quote Originally Posted by Baron View Post
    Hi Helmut!

    I like it more with the shadow from the horizontal tail unit. As Supah wrote, shadows and lights make it easier to understand the shape. The lighting on your drawings is a good choice to present your drawings, but if you do shadows (fuselage, under the wing etc) you should do it in the whole drawing and not miss some parts. One last note, if you do the shadow there, you also should to the shadow on the fuselage that is made by the strut from the fuselage to the horizontal tail unit.

    Cheers Simon
    Hi Simon,
    Clearly, you're right with the support frame and its shadow.

    But I mean, technical illustrations should not have any harsh shadows!
    They often cause for concern and frequently draw too much from. For example, if the shadow of a propeller blade like a boomerang pulls on the hood.

    Or here in my B-1 profiles at the bottom of the strut.

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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    Hello friends

    clear, an illustration lives of light and shadow. So I work on my profile.

    The advantage of a drawing or graphics over a photo is yet but the one that you can "disturbing" shadow omit. Hard shadows interfere with the visual information and thus the image.

    In product photography is working with high-lighting effort to eliminate such shadows.

    For what reason should we then draw the harsh shadows in profiles?

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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    to turn a flat drawing into a profile by defining the shape
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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    Quote Originally Posted by JMSmith View Post
    to turn a flat drawing into a profile by defining the shape
    ... thanks!
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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    Play nice boys! For some purposes shadows might be disruptive, a lot of times in books where the profiles are there to illustrate the paintscheme there are only very light shadows because they might other wise mess with the clarity of the paintscheme. It's about what your purpose is with your illustration that is what dictates the use of shadows. And personal taste ofcourse.

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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    BTW nice website Helmut

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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    Quote Originally Posted by Supah View Post
    Play nice boys! For some purposes shadows might be disruptive, a lot of times in books where the profiles are there to illustrate the paintscheme there are only very light shadows because they might other wise mess with the clarity of the paintscheme. It's about what your purpose is with your illustration that is what dictates the use of shadows. And personal taste ofcourse.
    Hi Supah,

    You're right... and it is indeed a bit to the style of an artist.

    bye,
    Heli... and thanks!

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