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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    i was playing nice!

    just explaining why we use shadow and highlights to define the shape, there was no nastiness mean't
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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    Quote Originally Posted by Supah View Post
    Play nice boys! For some purposes shadows might be disruptive, a lot of times in books where the profiles are there to illustrate the paintscheme there are only very light shadows because they might other wise mess with the clarity of the paintscheme. It's about what your purpose is with your illustration that is what dictates the use of shadows. And personal taste ofcourse.
    ganz genau, es geht um das Ziel!

    Für wen wird das gezeichnet?

    Wo wird es veröffentlicht?

    Was macht der Nutzer - Leser/Betrachter - mit der Grafik?

    Ich zeichne seit 30 Jahren für RC-Scale-Flugmodellbauer und habe viel Kontakt mit Wettbewerbs Modellbauern/Fliegern und viele davon finden nichts störender auf einer Zeichnung wie:

    Schatten, Reflexe, Gebrauchsspuren, Farbabplatzer etc.

    Muss jedoch auch sagen dass ich solche aufwendige Profile wie etwa von Heli handwerklich überhaupt nicht zustande bringen würde da ich kaum Erfahrung mit Rechnerzeichnungen habe. Natürlich juckt mich das schon und ich werde versuchen noch mehr in diese Technik einzusteigen.

    Aber nochmals "meine Kundschaft" benötigt solches eigentlich nicht; und ich sage mal ganz ehrlich: ich bekäme keinen Pfennig mehr Honorar für aufwendigere Zeichnungen, aber keinen Pfennig......

    Gruß
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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    any chance of posting this in english
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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    Hang on



    Exactly, it's all about the intended use.

    For who is it being drawn?

    How is it going to be published?

    What is the user going to do with the illustration?

    I have been drawing for RC Scale models for thirty years and have had a lot of contacts with competing Modellers and pilots and a lot of them find nothing more annoying in drawings then:

    Shadows, reflections, wear and tear and paint abbrasion.

    I have to say though that I couldnt draw these profiles myself anyway, I have only have experience with computer artwork (not sure about this one). I however am interested in doing this myself and will try and learn the skills to do this.

    But again my customers don't really need this, and to be honest I don't make anymore for these exterior drawings, but no more money ...
    What I made of it
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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    Hallo Supah,

    cordial thanks for the translation

    Gruß
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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    The B-1 had a fixed double bladed wooden prop (Schwarz propellor) which was quite fat. It wasn't until the C's were introduced that a variable pitch 3 bladed prop was added. Heli has illustrated this correctly.
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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    Very nice profile, Herr Schmidt,
    It was a shame that such historic machine after surviving in service until the year 1951 in the Spanish Air force, went to the scrapyard and broken up :-(

    Best regards
    Fran
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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    One further note here. Heli has done his homework. No 109 ever shipped to Spain was equipped with an RT unit...hence the lack of a radio mast. This is a mistake many others have made in profiling German fighters in Spain.
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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    wrong

    yes it's an E but you said " no 109 "
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    Re: Messerschmitt Bf 109 B-1, 6-10

    Sorry Sweetie, but that photo was taken in Germany prior to being shipped to Spain. I defy you to find a single example of a 109 serving in Spain that sports an antenna.

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