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[GiantFlyingRobots]

As someone else that has a great love of Illustrator (which sounds a bit wrong, eh?) I must say these are great. I understand you don't render them in Photoshop or any another program, what becomes of them once they are finished? if indeed, being the nature of the beast around here, they are ever finished.

[AGNT_Matt]

as Far as i know about otter a few of his drawings get turned into profile art pieces, and i must say this "thanks go to all those line artists out there, its people like you that make good profiles possible"

[Otterkins2]

Gamary, it's a question of learning the tools each program has to offer. This is not an easy task on your own, particularly when you are trying to learn several programs at once that are as complex as these are. I think if I was to go back 40 years ago and start again, I might have a good grasp on these programs as they are now, but I wouldn't know all of it. These are very deep and complex programs. At times I dispair that I will be little more than an idiot here. I have to keep trying though, and the patient help that I get from everyone here goes a long way to inspire me to better things.

[gamary]

I understand how you feel: I had Photoshop installed for several months before i could draw a line, let alone draw a full profile. The good thing is that it does get better with time, as you get more familiar and comfortable with it.

I doubt I use more than 2% of PS's capabilities. Looking around the web for tutorials, including ones that are unrelated to what we do, is useful. It helps grasping the program's functionalities and often leads to useful discoveries (keyboard shortcuts, various modes, techniques,etc. ).

[Otterkins2]

I have saved many, many tutorials Gaetan. I think at this point Jester is shaking his head in mind boggling disbelief since I packed up the lot and sent them to him. A lot of tutes don't seem to bear any relation at all to what you are doing: lettering, photo manipulation, special effects, etc. The point is, these tutes can apply to ANY object you are doing, so it's worth saving them. One place I find very useful that I subscribe to is Photoshop tutorials, plugins and downloads : The Photoshop Roadmap Daily they send me new tutes and I save the ones that are useful (I think) and ignore the ones that aren't. Not interested in doing realistic bruises or bloodshot eyes. For those of you learning Illustrator (an EXTREMELY useful companion to Photoshop) I would suggest you visit here if you want to get extreme! Technical illustration - Kevin Hulsey Illustration, Inc.

[gamary]

A lot of tutes don't seem to bear any relation at all to what you are doing: lettering, photo manipulation, special effects, etc. The point is, these tutes can apply to ANY object you are doing, so it's worth saving them.

Exactly. The "Create-a-realistic-horrible-fluorescent-green-monster-in-seven-clicks-with-Photoshop-tutorial" isn't very useful to anybody, especially profilers, but it did have some good keyboard shortcuts.

Come to think about it, those shortcuts are a great improvement in workflow once you have a handful of them.

[Otterkins2]

It all helps Gaetan. Look where you came from and how much you have accomplished. Now it's my turn to make the same struggle...but I'm combining both Illustraror and Photoshop, so it may take a bit.