The line drawing bandwagon

[Otterkins2]

Geez...now I,m ashamed to post my work. My 109 looks like it was done with Crayola by comparison! Astonishing job Blowhard! Oh....and since this is such a fishy subject......

[BLOWHARD]

TOO FUNNY! When I was a lowly art student I did a series of airbrush profiles, an Albatros D.V, a Bf 109 G-10, a 2 seater Me 262 and then a shark, viewed together they made a interesting progression I think I still have 35mm slides of these but that illustration is WAY better! Where is it from? Who did it?

Geez...now I,m ashamed to post my work. My 109 looks like it was done with Crayola by comparison!

NO WAY, you 109 looks pretty tops to me...although I'd make sure to get the rivets in perspective under the wings

[Otterkins2]

I have no idea who did it. A buddy sent it to me via email and I thought it was so funny I saved it. Rivets in perspective? C'mon Blowhard, gimme a break here. Why do you think no rivets are on the wing now? I barely know how to use either program. Jester tried to teach me but I think he gave up. I think Gruuby Fingers took one look at my skill level and ran away screaming. I poke along with what I've got. You cannot imagine the loss one feels when they can no longer draw by hand and are forced to try and be creative in a totally different medium that is nearly incomprehensible. I'm a highly trained graphic designer, but all of that counts for nothing when you loose those abilities through no fault of your own. I'm used to using Rapidographs and airbrushes, though both are gathering dust now. I'm here because I'm begging to be shown how to do what I have lost in a new way.

[GrubbyFingers]

Hi Otterkins.
I've not run away screaming, just run away for Easter.
You are right that I can't imagine what it must be like being confronted with Photoshop for the first time, let alone the jump from traditional to digital. I did make that move from drawing board to computer, but it was 20 years ago! All I can say is, hang in there and keep plugging away. You'll find the little lightbulbs keep going off and lighting your way step by step. I think you have landed in a good place to learn where some of the lightswitches are, anyway.
Here endeth the sermon.
Graeme.

[BLOWHARD]

C'mon Blowhard, gimme a break here.

Hey, you've done the rest of the plane at a high level of quality and detail, no time to slack off now!

being confronted with Photoshop for the first time

Imagine what it's like to see him in the mirror every morning when you get up
Otterkins, I haven't figures out the best way to do the wing rivets in perspective either That's the weakest part of my Zeros AFAIC. I was hoping you'd come up with some new ideas
What I did on the Zero is draw out the wing and panels in perspective, then I stretched out the vectored paths until it was the same span as the wing in plan view, I put all the rivets in and then reduced it back to the compressed perspective size. It wasn't a 100% success. Anyone else have any better ideas on how to do this?

[BLOWHARD]

I'm getting there.

I still need to cut out the aileron, sort out a few things on the wings and add the machine guns. Then I'll need to do a cowling variation and a left handed forward gun version...and...

[Clave]

Nice work!

Illustrator rocks, especially for 'repeat' items like rivets

[gamary]

@ Otterkins: I understand how you feel: PS is not easy to "get into" but the first part is the hardest. I started three years ago. Couldn't do anything with PS. After several months, I figured out how to draw a curve using the pen tool (this isn't a joke, I really was that slow).

As you go on, you become more comfortable with the program, and you'll also stumble on tips and tricks by mistake! At first, I drew rivets one by one, then I discovered the "step" function, then I discovered I could mix that with paths, and so forth...

It's frustrating and slow, but it's worth it!

[BLOWHARD]

More hard work,

Still a lot left to go!

[Jesters-Ink]

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