Ju88A

[Baron]

Clint!

Forget all colours taken from recovered planes. Colours changed in all the years!

Indeed it's a real pain with these colours and it's contrast. It's not only a question of the colours, it's also the question when these photographs were taken. (angle, time and season)

Cheers,

[Clint Mitchell]

Thank you Simon for taking the time to compare the swatches. It sure is a difficult subject. I think i will take your advice and stick close to what i've got already and if anyone moans I'll just say well prove to me what they should look like then. Recovered aircraft can fade in time but why have the white and black stayed ok? Also another possible angle the photo below is a quite well known colourized (touched up at the time) period photo surely the colouring artist would have a pretty good idea how the actual colours looked (maybe?) looks suspiciously like the colours in the bottom swatches?


Good discussion gents there's nothing like a good RLM colours chat to fry your brain and melt your eyes.

Thanks

Clint

[Skyraider3D]

I think the hue of your current colours is good, but the contrast is too big. In particular RLM 71 needs darkening.

Here's nice original colour footage. Though it's of very limited use to identify actual colours, it does give you a nice 'feel' for the camouflage pattern. Note how subtle the 70/71 contrast is to the point where you often can't see the pattern. Good shots are at 22 seconds (cowling on far right) and around 30 seconds (again the cowling).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7lVY56dsd4

Don't bother picking colours from photos - ever. It's all nonsense as there are too many variables to make it of any use. Try to replicate the feel of the scheme rather than stress over accurate RGB values (which may look totally different on someone else's machine).

[Clint Mitchell]

I kinda see what you mean from the vid about the contrast between the two and I'll try and work something out tomorrow. Point taken about the photo's my monitor's calibration is not what it should be. I suppose it's just one of those things we will never know. I've posted the same question on LEMB and it's had 1 reply and he thought that the Simmers swatches were the best?

Cheers gents i'll post something up tomorrow with regards to the colours and then I've gotta get on with the wings.

Clint

[Skyraider3D]

In my view the Simmers swatches are too low saturation and too high contrast. Combined they don't match the right 'feel' by a long shot.

[JMSmith]

hi clint,

whilst i am forced to sit at home for a week i will go through my stuff on the 88, i have a couple of points i would like to check, not saying what they are until i have checked

[Clint Mitchell]

Not even a little inkling John?

[JMSmith]

nope

second thoughts, led zep, "communication breakdown"

[Clint Mitchell]

Yep Led Zep = Fine band. Does that mean there are no problems? I've changed the 71 slighlty:


Cheers

Clint

[JMSmith]

contrast is far better now

still looking for the other, but i may be wrong and i don't want the others to take the p*** if i open my gob before checking