Messerchmitt Bf 109

[Clint Mitchell]

Gaetan, for it to be known in so many published sources I would expect this WNr. to be known from a period record somewhere. If Dr Prien thinks it is correct I'd go with that.

[gamary]

Gaetan, for it to be known in so many published sources I would expect this WNr. to be known from a period record somewhere. If Dr Prien thinks it is correct I'd go with that.

I agree. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just having a bout of healthy skepticism and saying that in a case where things are unclear, I'd rather see more primary sources.

If we are to agree that this aircraft is 27169 and that Prien's listing of WNr. is correct, then it is indeed a G-5.

[gamary]

Individual G-5s are known within Werknummer blocks:
15200 - 16000
26000 - 26400
27000 - 27200

I just realized that I didn't read Galgot's comment correctly. He is right in saying that 27169 could be a G-5. I initially thought those serial blocks were only G-5 but they are not.

Il faut que j'apprenne à ouvrir les yeux et fermer ma ...

[Clint Mitchell]

I think what Galgot's WNr. blocks info means is that they were predominately G-6 blocks but G-5s were interspersed within these blocks. So I'm unsure what it is.

I've found some info from a guy who usually knows his stuff:

"This G-6, Werk No. 27169 was photographed on or after the 15th Nov. 1943 as on this day Bartels scored his 70th victory, 71 coming on the 17th Nov. The aircraft is a G-6/R6 Trop., it does in fact have the tropical filter as can be seen in the second image. The IV Gruppe of JG27 was based at Kalamaki airfield, Greece at this time."
Source: Wayne Little

That would make this aircraft an 11./JG27 aircraft.

[gamary]

I think what Galgot's WNr. blocks info means is that they were predominately G-6 blocks but G-5s were interspersed within these blocks. So I'm unsure what it is.

That is what he meant, and he's right. It's just that I initially had misunderstood him. Me have slow brain. You must be patient with me.

Now I have to do a G-4 and a G-2.

And, soon, I should get a chance to study the real McCoy. A gentleman who is restoring a G-10 has kindly invited me to visit him. As you can imagine, I didn't refuse.

[helischmidt]

And, soon, I should get a chance to study the real McCoy. A gentleman who is restoring a G-10 has kindly invited me to visit him. As you can imagine, I didn't refuse.

Is Rene Meyer???... the lively Frenchman

[gamary]

Is Rene Meyer???... the lively Frenchman

Yes. A very nice man, whom I'd been hearing about for some time, and met a few days ago.

From what I've been told, it could be flying in a couple of years although I don't know if that is true or not. Anyway, he is a very pleasant chap, and we had both an amusing and interesting conversation.

[helischmidt]

Yes. A very nice man, whom I'd been hearing about for some time, and met a few days ago.

From what I've been told, it could be flying in a couple of years although I don't know if that is true or not. Anyway, he is a very pleasant chap, and we had both an amusing and interesting conversation.

Yes, I think it's also very nice and always cheerful.

A nice person

It was said in Speyer ...
He wanted his HA-Bf 109 sell to the "Messerschmitt-Stiftung"

[Galgot]

That is what he meant, and he's right. It's just that I initially had misunderstood him. Me have slow brain. You must be patient with me.

Now I have to do a G-4 and a G-2.

And, soon, I should get a chance to study the real McCoy. A gentleman who is restoring a G-10 has kindly invited me to visit him. As you can imagine, I didn't refuse.

No slow brain, cher confrère , i'm the one who misguided you first saying "W.Nmr 27000 to 27200 where G-5, so this one (27169) is one too" , then re-reading the book corrected saying it could be a G-5

So you gonna see a real G-10, you lucky man.

[ChrisS1958]

Hey Guys do you have a Werk Nummer for this G-10 restoration?